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Review: Well written, well reasoned, very readable - Tatha Wiley does a wonderful job in this book of describing the origins of the doctrine of Original Sin and the problems faced by theologians today with the earlier ideas of Augustine and Aquinas, etc. I greatly value the entire book and especially the discussion of Bernard Lonergan's theology. This is obviously a faith affirming and orthodox endeavor. -------- However ----- My subjective response which may be of little or no value to anyone is this --- There was no Original Sin; there was no Fall; and we are not born alienated from God in any way. We don't need magical rituals to "restore" anything that was lost. ---The biblical texts used to support these ideas cannot bear the weight of the theology built on them. . Not at all. ---- And there is no real biblical source of a revelation about Fallen Angels, the Devil etc. This ideas aren't good ideas. ------ We are moving forward morally in a biological world that is unfolding in time. And as Teilhard de Chardin indicated, evil is inevitable in any biological world unfolding in time (not his exact words.) ---- And only when we cast aside the doctrine of Original Sin and the Fall, and all magical thinking about sanctifying grace and such, will we be able to really address the moral challenges we face. ----- Obviously many Christians and Catholics are unable to do this. They simply can't. They can't abandon a doctrine affirmed by the Reformers, or by the Council of Trent. So books like this struggle with an immense burden. They are trying to move forward, but they carry all sorts of cumbersome baggage with them. Such is the nature of writing Catholic and Christian theology, I presume. It is a highly conservative enterprise in which you "conserve" as much as you can as you inch towards something new. ----- But sooner or later theologians, I feel, are going to have to cut this baggage loose. ----- They're going to have to accept full responsibility for what they are actually saying in many books today ---- that the old ideas are no longer useful at all. ----- I would like to add that the entire Christian Belief System as we know it today is founded on these old and bad ideas. And I respect the gravity and scope of the problem. But surely this can and will change. Affirming one's love of God, one's devotion to Christ and His example and His teachings, one's consuming desire to live a good and moral and loving and constructive life ---- all this must be possible without the idea of Original Sin, and the Fall, and the need for magical grace. ----- Anyway, for some one struggling with all this, the book is superb and let me affirm again, that it is orthodox. It does not reflect my radical views here. Not at all. ---- But I am looking for the theologian who will say outright: all this old stuff is bad and it has to go. If I have offended anyone here, I ask for their patience and forgiveness.
Review: Original Sin: Origins, Developments, Comtemporary Meanings - I'm not really all that far into this book, but the Introduction literally captured my attention. I am most impressed with the author's(Tatha Wiley) approach to discussing the subject. I choose it because I wanted a fair reading on the doctrine of original sin, particularly its relevance in early Christianity and how it evolved into doctrine which is a foundation of Christianity, without which Christianity appears to have a very weak base for the purpose of the life of Jesus. But it does require a fair hearing without personal prejudice to grasp the subject itself. I've enjoyed what I've read so far.

## Technical Specifications

| Specification | Value |
|---------------|-------|
| Best Sellers Rank | #776,304 in Books ( See Top 100 in Books ) #299 in Christian Theological Anthropology |
| Customer Reviews | 4.5 4.5 out of 5 stars (33) |
| Dimensions  | 6.02 x 0.85 x 9.1 inches |
| Edition  | 10.2.2002 |
| ISBN-10  | 0809141280 |
| ISBN-13  | 978-0809141289 |
| Item Weight  | 1 pounds |
| Language  | English |
| Print length  | 288 pages |
| Publication date  | November 1, 2002 |
| Publisher  | Paulist Press |

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## Customer Reviews

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Well written, well reasoned, very readable
*by A***E on March 24, 2013*

Tatha Wiley does a wonderful job in this book of describing the origins of the doctrine of Original Sin and the problems faced by theologians today with the earlier ideas of Augustine and Aquinas, etc. I greatly value the entire book and especially the discussion of Bernard Lonergan's theology. This is obviously a faith affirming and orthodox endeavor. -------- However ----- My subjective response which may be of little or no value to anyone is this --- There was no Original Sin; there was no Fall; and we are not born alienated from God in any way. We don't need magical rituals to "restore" anything that was lost. ---The biblical texts used to support these ideas cannot bear the weight of the theology built on them. . Not at all. ---- And there is no real biblical source of a revelation about Fallen Angels, the Devil etc. This ideas aren't good ideas. ------ We are moving forward morally in a biological world that is unfolding in time. And as Teilhard de Chardin indicated, evil is inevitable in any biological world unfolding in time (not his exact words.) ---- And only when we cast aside the doctrine of Original Sin and the Fall, and all magical thinking about sanctifying grace and such, will we be able to really address the moral challenges we face. ----- Obviously many Christians and Catholics are unable to do this. They simply can't. They can't abandon a doctrine affirmed by the Reformers, or by the Council of Trent. So books like this struggle with an immense burden. They are trying to move forward, but they carry all sorts of cumbersome baggage with them. Such is the nature of writing Catholic and Christian theology, I presume. It is a highly conservative enterprise in which you "conserve" as much as you can as you inch towards something new. ----- But sooner or later theologians, I feel, are going to have to cut this baggage loose. ----- They're going to have to accept full responsibility for what they are actually saying in many books today ---- that the old ideas are no longer useful at all. ----- I would like to add that the entire Christian Belief System as we know it today is founded on these old and bad ideas. And I respect the gravity and scope of the problem. But surely this can and will change. Affirming one's love of God, one's devotion to Christ and His example and His teachings, one's consuming desire to live a good and moral and loving and constructive life ---- all this must be possible without the idea of Original Sin, and the Fall, and the need for magical grace. ----- Anyway, for some one struggling with all this, the book is superb and let me affirm again, that it is orthodox. It does not reflect my radical views here. Not at all. ---- But I am looking for the theologian who will say outright: all this old stuff is bad and it has to go. If I have offended anyone here, I ask for their patience and forgiveness.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Original Sin: Origins, Developments, Comtemporary Meanings
*by N***T on April 16, 2010*

I'm not really all that far into this book, but the Introduction literally captured my attention. I am most impressed with the author's(Tatha Wiley) approach to discussing the subject. I choose it because I wanted a fair reading on the doctrine of original sin, particularly its relevance in early Christianity and how it evolved into doctrine which is a foundation of Christianity, without which Christianity appears to have a very weak base for the purpose of the life of Jesus. But it does require a fair hearing without personal prejudice to grasp the subject itself. I've enjoyed what I've read so far.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Dr. Wiley's academic lens and articulation on the doctrinal original sin are excellent.
*by I***U on January 31, 2023*

Dr. Wiley has fairly and successfully measured the original sin from both traditional metaphorical theology and post-modern methodical theology perspectives. Her contexts have also been very insightful for social justice issues by inspiring us on what happened and how/why it happened. Wiley's book also provides a possible journey that we can consider, discern, and move forward. For those who are not professionals in theology or religious studies, this book provides deep and fundamental insights regarding how the doctrine of original sin was historically formed and how it has influenced the human world in many ways. Depending on how the audience reads it, this book can be a very good resource to inspire those who seek to deepen their understanding of how original sin dogma has possibly influenced issues of human society- such as faith, religion, sex and sexuality, race, slavery, and gender, .... and so on.

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